Some new modules and patches made with that

brunov

Hey, I found some extra modules in the editor that actually seem to work!

It's a "resonator" module and "driver" module. I don't know exactly how to use them or connect them, you can see them below in the screenshot.

There are some more modules that never made it into the G2, I tried some of them, but not all seem to work. Maybe because they don't exist in the G2 firmware, or maybe I haven't formatted the message correctly.

ModuleType ShortName
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AR-Env
AudioIn
Blue2Red, seems to be a testing module
BusIn
ClkDivFix
35 Driver -> Works!
EnvDX
LfoD
Mixer6-1A
Mixer6-1B
OutBusA
OutBusB
PeakFollow
101 PolarFade -> Doesn't seem to work
120 PolarPan -> Doesn't seem to work
10 PulseOsc -> Doesn't seem to work
Red2Blue
56 Resonator -> Works!
207 RndChaos -> Doesn't seem to work
RndDistr
RndState
RndStep
SeqA
104 ShelvEQ
14 SyncOsc -> Doesn't seem to work

The bottom screenshot shows some of the modules I tried sofar, so only the Resonator and the Driver worked, but interesting none the less!

I wonder what the driver is supposed to do...

[NOTE by Blue Hell: this was split off from http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-48872.html ]

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dorremifasol · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:49 am Post subject:

Amazing discovery! I suppose they expected the G2 to be successful and add / finish lots of interesting modules over time.

Scot Solida · Joined: Oct 24, 2009 Posts: 100 Location: Hutchinson Kansas

Seems like physical modeling. The Driver is clearly an exciter model, used probably to excite the Resonator (which is also likely to be a typical PM resonator - it's set to strings at the moment). Strange that it lists pretty much wind/brass exciters, while the resonator has strings added in (the "tube" would represent the body of the wind/horn). There is a bow exciter listed, so that must be it. Probably a short burst of noise could be used in lieu of a proper pluck exciter.

This is exciting stuff, especially given that A: they work! and B: my long lost G2 returns to me next week, so I can play with 'em.

Nicely done, sir!

blue hell · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:40 am Post subject:

The polar thingies once were available in some beta ... can't recall why they were retracted exactly ... anyway, there might be some code too in old beta's, just too bad they were handed out under a non disclosure agreement.

brunov · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:42 am Post subject:

I suppose the "drive" inputs/outputs are meant to be chained like so.

These two modules seem to be the only ones that work. That's a pity, the RndChaos, PulsOsc and SyncOsc seem interesting also.

I'll try and make an intermediate release soon that include these two new modules.

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brunov · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:54 am Post subject:

I made a release 0.24 that includes these modules.

If you already installed the OS editor, you only have to download the zip and extract it somewhere on disk.

Otherwise you'll have to install the libusb-win32, then please read and follow the install instructions in the readme file carefully.

veta · Joined: Feb 19, 2007 Posts: 39 Location: www

blue hell · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:58 am Post subject:

varice · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject:

Great find!

Please do us a favor. Save a working patch built with the Driver and Resonator modules and post it here. I would like to see if the G2 Editor (mine is version 1.40) can load the patch and edit it. If that works, it might be possible to have a template patch that contains all of these working hidden modules that could be used with the G2 Editor.

My theory is that these hidden modules can be edited once they are in a patch, it’s just that the G2 Editor software just does not allow you to *add* these hidden modules while editing a patch.

This is all just very good work brunov. Bravo!

varice · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject:

Antimon · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:54 pm Post subject:

That's amazing! If these modules turn out to be usable it's a more important find than the Higgs particle!

Ok I exaggarate (though just a little bit), but really, awesome work! Very Happy

brunov · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject:

Varice, I'm going to upload the patch but I'll be surprised if it works.

I'm on G2 Editor and OS version 1.62 and when I try to load it, I get an error message "Module doesnt exist."

For the modules we're dependend on the G2 OS, there's no way we can make changes to the OS. Somehow they forgot to take these two modules out of the OS or forgot to put them in the editor.

With these other modules, changes are slim that they exist somewhere in the OS. The only thing I do is to send a message from the editor "Create module type 56" to the G2, for the driver and resonater this worked but and for all the others the G2 responds with "Error 3", which probably means "Module doesn't exist".

You'll get some Idea of the modules that where planned when you look at the little map of module icons.

Veta: I hope to make a mac version someday, but that won't be any time soon. Maybe this winter I'll get some time to really do some serious work again on the editor.

I uploaded a small example of some sounds I made with the patch.

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brunov · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject:

varice · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:36 pm Post subject:

veta · Joined: Feb 19, 2007 Posts: 39 Location: www

the resonator sounds great in the wav you posted, brunov.

perhaps this discovery deserves it's own thread?

varice · Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject:

drapdap · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:20 am Post subject:

Wow!

excellent work Bruno!
it does sound neat...

brunov · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:54 am Post subject:

I tried the static clockdivider but sadly no, g2 won't have it. I guess we just have to be happy with whatever falls our way.

Alle these other modules have a distinct "test"/"prototype"/"not really ready" feeling about them, but I'm really happy with the driver/resonator.

The driver has 4 modes "Reed", "Bow", "Lips" and "Mallet" but for one reason or another the last two are crossed out. Maybe they don't want us to use them...

Then the resonater has 5 algorithms: 2 string and 3 tubes.

They are quite expensive DSP wise, can only have 6 per patch on an expanded G2 and the you have to devide them over VA and FX location.

But if you patch'm like this, taking the input from another slot, you can make some really big sounds. Razz

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drapdap · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject:

Hey, no dsp usage meter in the open source editor??? ' Twisted Evil

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mosc · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject:

I made this topic Sticky, as suggested. Thanks...

Since the open source editor is mentioned on the very first page of this topic, I'm not sure what splitting would accomplish.

drapdap · Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:46 am Post subject:

brunov · Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:41 am Post subject:

JLS · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:07 am Post subject:

Hi brunov

Nice work two new modules is great for me.

Please some info about RndChaos module - this sound interesting - please test it again - true not working ? any chance ?

Many thanks info and your great work.

Kamil

Roland Kuit · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:39 am Post subject:

Fantastic work Very Happy

anigbrowl · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject:

Amazing! I just downloaded the new version, and although I have some difficulty with the libUSB (because I am using AMD64?) I am looking forward to try the new modules.

Shocked