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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: unknown band can anyone help?
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Is there anyone out there who can help?

My uncle found an old box of tapes and asked me if I knew the band. He knows I’m into electronica but I have no idea. He reckons it’s King Crimson.

I’ve asked around but nobody seems to know. And what’s the line up?
A Mellotron or something. And the synth?

There’s some chalk marks on the carton and a date that looks like 1972 or 5 and a bit under Artiste that might be Paul G……or something and a ref to Pari. Who or what is Pari?

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Dave


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: unknown band can anyone help?
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moog.man wrote:
He reckons it’s King Crimson.


Could very well be. Although it's not a song I know of them it reminds me on King Crimson.

Mabe CTRL+F for Paris in http://members.aol.com/kingcrimsonlive/kclive31.htm that one mentions some songs I never heard.

welcome BTW and I removed your duplicate message, sorry but it's against the policies.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Laughing

No way is that King Crimson! Laughing

It's sounds like Pat Metheny, Frank Zappa and Keith Emerson, on a lot of coke and all in bed with each other, while on stage Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh oh, we need a better expert Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How about that Paul G clue ?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

v-un-v wrote:
It's sounds like Pat Metheny, Frank Zappa and Keith Emerson, on a lot of coke and all in bed with each other, while on stage Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing


Or it just could be Pat Metheny, Frank Zappa and Keith Emerson humping King Crimson while on a creepy lot of shrooms and coke? Stage or not.. who cares ...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'll agree with the staff. It's not King Crimson.

There is no Mellotron. Only Zu'ul. Or there's a Fender Rhodes with a Small Stone, and a steep filtered analogue lead instrument, of which, in 1972-1975, there were quite a few, even (especially!) in the UK. No idea of the venue huh? I'm getting Moog with a ribbon controller. Idea

Rod Argent doing a piss take on ELP? Razz

It's definitely someone playing prog rock, but they didn't make it out of the UK, or I'd probably have heard it.

Ok, it's probably not Tony Kaye, I doubt it is Peter Banks either, definitely not Keith or Rick, they were already doing other stuff then and this is not their style. King Crimson was doing something else by then, as was the Moody Blues. None of this fits and this sounds more like progressive jazz than progressive rock.

I get more jazz than rock, but it was the height of prog rock, so it could just be someone who didn't get published. There are a lot of us.

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There is a possibility this is Soft Machine, although I should research it more...

The time and place fit though. Anybody got any of their music?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Soft machine ... not I anything I know of them, and the voice doesn't match. But I didn't hear all sm of course Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There could be an understated and ill placed tron at the end of the track. Anyways, could we hear more? Chances are that we might recognise some signature licks or tricks and then unravel the mystery.
For some reason this sounds vaguely familiar.

Soft machine? Or one of the related groups / spinoffs / jerkoffs / moles?
Nah.. no Wyatt in here I think.

Sure, it has a touch of jazz rock, and prog.. but also a flair of that european psychedelic spacejamrockprog stuff. The more recognisable and extrovert stuff like Gong and Magma is well know. This is not any of those. There were shitloads of bands like that. Many were really good. Just a handful or two got recording deals.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
no Wyatt in here I think.


That's the one I meant, the voice aint right Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
Soft machine ... not I anything I know of them, and the voice doesn't match. But I didn't hear all sm of course Very Happy


They did go fusion after Wyatt was kicked. Some of the live tapes I have heard from like after 72 did enter this kinda terrain at times. Still... I´m not sure. It does sound familiar though. Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
elektro80 wrote:
no Wyatt in here I think.


That's the one I meant, the voice aint right Very Happy


Yeah, but SM didn´t sound anything like this while Wyatt was in.
hey I have a link. Those drums! Is that John Stanley Marshall of Nucleus fame? Marshall did play with SM after Wyatt and that other guy departed..

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