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GovernorSilver

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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:03 pm Post subject:
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I can't find the usual form for entering a search string and hitting a button. Is there one somewhere?
Looking for patches and info on processing external audio for experimental/free improv. I'm using a few now but am open to more ideas. |
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mosc
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:52 am Post subject:
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There are precious few NM 1 patches here on the electro-music.com forum. There are lost in other places though. Check the front page of the Nord Modualr mail lists, http://electro-music.com/mailman/listinfo/nord-modular and follow some links on that page. You'll find so many you won't be able to deal with them all.  |
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GovernorSilver

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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:11 am Post subject:
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Thanks, mosc. I think I found what I was looking for:
http://pch.zevv.nl/
So far I've used FMResonatorLR, AudioSlicer02, and FinalPitchFollower (aka "The Bjork patch"). Just looking for more so our violinist doesn't get too bored. The tweaks we will probably add are an overdrive module at the front and some way to control the wet/dry balance if I can't figure out how to do sends/returns on my MOTU 828MkII (that is, plug her violin into the MOTU, take a send of her violin signal, run it into the Micromodular, run the return back into the MOTU, mix the return signal and dry signal). |
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mosc
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:36 am Post subject:
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Hooking up a wet dry is as easy as using a crossfade module. I can see that it would not be all that easy in the 828MKII. There is no way to rig up a single crossfader knob. The problem using the NM as the crossfader is that when you change patches, you'll get that short loss of signal.
Now if you had a G2, you could set up three different signal processing patches, each with 8 variations, in 3 slots and mix them with corssfaders or whatever you want in the forth slot. You'd have much more capability, plus reverb, and delay modules too. |
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GovernorSilver

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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:03 pm Post subject:
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Oh man, if my bandmate finds this forum, he'll be in trouble.
He's trying to decide whether to buy a Micromodular for processing his bass (I could run the same patches I've been using on violin, and it's low-cost) or a G2 Engine (almost 3x as much, not patch compatible).
It's been tough finding the send/return info for the mixer features of my 828 in the manual that came with it...  |
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mosc
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject:
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Get the G2 if he can afford it - considerably more powerful and sounds better too. |
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elektro80
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject:
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MusicalGirevik wrote: | The tweaks we will probably add are an overdrive module at the front and some way to control the wet/dry balance if I can't figure out how to do sends/returns on my MOTU 828MkII (that is, plug her violin into the MOTU, take a send of her violin signal, run it into the Micromodular, run the return back into the MOTU, mix the return signal and dry signal). |
One issue with live processing of instruments using synths:
It can be smart to add a limiter and a compressor before you patch the feed into a synth. It can also be smart to experiment with an equalizer .. at best a 31 band .. before sending it into the synth.. you could like first use a compressor.. then the 31-band.. then a compressor/limiter combo.
I haven´t yet done used a Nord Modular for this, but I imagine the rules are still the same. Flattening the dynamics a bit is often a great effect when doing stuff like this live.
BTW: do you have any recordings of your concerts avaiable? this sounds like serious fun to me. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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mosc
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject:
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You are right about putting a compressor/limiter in line before the digital processing chain.
I'm not sure the EQ is so critical because you can do that in the NM quite easilly. Well, if you really HAD a 31 band equalizer, the certainly use it, but I don't have on myself and don't fell I'm missing something. Why do you think it's important?
Boy, we sure get OT, don't we?  |
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elektro80
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject:
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OT still.. OK... with a 31 band on the input you can quickly with one hand modify the spectral content a bit.. and this can have a huge effect when you are ...hmm.. messing about with filter sweeps on the signal inside the modular synth.. a kind of tuning. Several types of traditional modular synth processing of external audio can be "tuned" if you have a compressed signal and you can mess about with it with a 31 band. like.. if you are doing very messy patches involving vocoders, stepfiltereing etc.. "tuning" the input signal just a little can be a lifesaver. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject:
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I understand what you are saying. Having the 31 sliders with immediate access is a big plus. If that EQ was in the synth, you couldn't get at it and make changes, especially real-time changes, very easilly.
That is, unless you had are really great control surface.  |
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elektro80
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:24 pm Post subject:
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Yup... i have my glasses still _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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GovernorSilver

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:43 am Post subject:
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Thanks for the tip about putting a 31-band eq in front. We don't have such a unit now but will consider in the future.
Our bass player went ahead and ordered a G2 Engine for himself. I congratulated him but also warned him I won't be able to help him with the process of evaluating external audio processing patches and tweaking them to suit our band needs, as I don't have a G2 of my own.
Until his G2 arrives, I'm going to try running his bass through my newly arrived Triwave Picogenerator and the Line6 DL4 delay/looper pedal, which I used his bass for our first show. The Triwave is awesome in that it practically has a life of its own, but that same quality makes it harder to control. It's like a Modular noodle patch in hardware, using analog circuitry. I told him I'm going to switch between plugging him into the main audio input and the trigger inputs. |
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modul8tr
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject:
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Hey MusicalGirevik,
I tried to find some of the patches you listed above. . . .and couldn't find them with the search engine you listed. Did you find them somewhere else?
I'm a flute player interested in using the Modualr as a processor for a production I'm working on. These patches sound interesting.
Thanks in advance for any info.
Greg
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GovernorSilver

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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:06 pm Post subject:
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I'm a flute player interested in using the Modualr as a processor for a production I'm working on. These patches sound interesting.
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I just visited your website. Interesting stuff. Do you have more information abot this current project of ours?? _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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modul8tr
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:08 pm Post subject:
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Hello again,
MusicalGirevik, thanks for the info, I'll give that a looksie!
elektro80. . . yes there is a section of the site under construction as we speak. It will go live in September, with many details. The production is currently titled BlackBox and is a HUGE synchronized animal of many mediums. It is centered around my flute playing as a three or four movement "concerto" of sorts. Though a concerto unlike any other. An epic work exploring the psycho-spatial realms of emotional consciousness and its imprint on our experience ("reality"). . . . in multiple dimensions. All original music, interesting instrumentation, 5.1 sound and a KILLER drummer. It is in production and will debut in late 2005 early 2006.
I want to say more but should not at this point.
The Nord Modular I bought especially for this and already see I'll need a Nord Modular Engine as well. INCREDIBLE synth. I had no idea.
Thanks for your interest Elektro80!
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