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iTunes Music Store: Facelift for a corrupt industry (?!?)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

True, there is no point in blaiming MP3.com for selling out and Apple for taking a cut. There are bills to be payed, something we ourselves are very aware of. Servers and bandwidth must be bought the same way we ourselves have to buy instruments and whatever.

The cut that artists get from contracts with the major labels is something else. Here we have middlemen who take it all and then own the artist´s ass for all eternity. But I have never been in favour of giving the music away for free.. all parties involved should of course earn a decent living.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

egw wrote:
I would be much more likely to find what I like in "Seraph's top 100 artists" than in the Billboard top 100!

Am I called into action? Thanks for trusting my taste, I guess I could say the same about "EGW's top 100 artists" Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I wouldnt be surprised to see a degree of equalization between the commercial and non-commercial music worlds in the next decade, especially when things like iTunes eliminate many of the excuses labels have traditionally had for paying artists so little. They use a "points" system and artists generally get about 8 points if I am not mistaken. That's 8 points (basicly percent) of NET, from which they pay back the labels' loan to them. It's the industry itself that is corrupt and shameful, not the avenues of distribution per se.

Although there is something to be said about that too in most instances. And besides, with options like Amazon Advantage, CDbaby, CDstreet, and not things like Napster and iTunes, it IS theoretically possible for a single independent artist to net virtually 100% of the profits after distribution costs, rather than a dubious 8%. So I give tremendous merit to there now being the possibility itself. It's promising. Quite.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cyxeris wrote:
And besides, with options like Amazon Advantage, CDbaby, CDstreet, and not things like Napster and iTunes, it IS theoretically possible for a singly independent artist to net virtually 100% of profits after distribution costs, rather than a dubious 8%. So I give tremendous merit to there now being the possibility itself. It's promising. Quite.


CDBaby takes $4 out of every CD, independent of the price. Electro-music.com takes %20 and about 3% for the PayPal commission. Why would someone sell there rather than here, assuming they have appropriate electro-music?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How the music industry is handling the suppliers of the goods.. the very music.. is not that far off how other industries are using children as workers. It is pretty amusing and tragic how some artists still play the game.. it is ok being ripped off forever and ever as long as there is just a small chance of them becomg big popstars and objects of teenage masturbation. Pretty sick. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
CDBaby takes $4 out of every CD, independent of the price. Electro-music.com takes %20 and about 3% for the PayPal commission. Why would someone sell there rather than here, assuming they have appropriate electro-music?


I was just describing the state of affairs in general, for independents as a whole, in any genre. The idea being that now there are these options, which include electro-music and a host of others, that offer a level of compensation, even in the case of cdbaby, that was unachievable to people like us a decade ago.

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