autechre untilted WARP180CD

inversekinematics · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:39 am Post subject: autechre untilted WARP180CD

Any of you heard it?
It's INCREDIBLE.

Plus I can swear that I can hear some "clavia"-sounds in it Smile

Kassen · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:50 am Post subject:

That´s not so surprising, AE are known to be Nord Lead fans.

inversekinematics · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:30 am Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:45 am Post subject:

Well, idolise is a big word in my case, but AE, along with Panasonic and John Duncan were the artists that made me realise you could make beauty out of components that by themselves are quite ugly.

Did you read that nice SOS interview?

inversekinematics · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:09 am Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:27 am Post subject:

Actually, I meant least year´s interview, includes nice MAX/MSP schreen shots for you to stare at. I know I did....

Happy reading :¬).

rnp · Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 55 Location: germany

did you get hold of an advance copy then? or is it over the net already? comparable to anything they did before? I'm one of the guys that rather enjoyed Draft 7:30, liked it a lot better than Confield, curious what Untitled is going to be like.

Kassen · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:03 am Post subject:

hey, mr. Kinematics?

Can I simply ask what your signature does or am I required to program it up somewhere? It´s a bit too much to do in my head, you see....

inversekinematics · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:13 am Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:53 am Post subject:

Ah, check. Cool.

I trust you liked this article? I think it´s the only one where they are that open and honest about how they work.

Roland Kuit · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:23 am Post subject:

Sorry to be a bummer. i got 2 cd's from them and a private one. i think to much credits are going to them. I don't expres my deepest feelings but i think it's a bit old fashionated and walking on 2 legs. On the other side it's a bit experimental so to speak but the fillings are shit. Like txt or other stuff. I.ve hade it with so called new stuff. Everything has being done already, from Stockhausen to the french stuff, sounding so pleasant) so I'm fomiting on a lot of stuff. it you see it in a contest of years, Stockhoausen and others did allreaddy! And in the French way P.Schefer and Henry. So my thought of the so called "modern "musis is a bit controverisail. A lot seems to hapens, but not new is comming around.
Sorry for my dark view.

Kassen · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:46 am Post subject:

yeah, but did where did anybody call AE "new"?

For statistic´s sake, when would you say people started complaining "everything has been done already" and how many distinct new musical styles do you count from then ´till now? Imho yours not a "dark" view, the light is just a little further away then you are looking.

;¬)

Roland Kuit · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:57 am Post subject:

No you're playing it back to me. So that's no answer. My question is:
where do people dare to go over borders? Is that to mix some "weird"(what has already be done) stuff with normal, or is that to the new way to new paths. I hear it all the time. So called old stuff within a new jacked. The jacked doens'nt seem very new aswell. It smells.

Kassen · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:13 am Post subject:

Roland, if you´d read back your own post you´d see that no question is being asked at all, there´s not even a question mark in there. Your post is making a claim and it´s implying that it´s arguing against statements that would´ve been made before, except that nobody actually expressed those statements.
Nothing is being "played back to you".

I haven´t heard this new album and so can´t answer your questions, AE might well be the first to admit they take a lot of clues from "that french stuff", I don´t see how that would elminitate any chance of enjoying this work and leave only "fomiting" as a option. I asume you have heard it already?

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:26 am Post subject:

I cannot quite remember what Autechre sounds like. I think I remember I found it "active but boring" .. but I guess I listened to just a track or two, which mean I have only my own laziness to blame for "not getting it". I know Autechre is THE big thing still, probably bigger than Freddie Mercury. A friend of mine called Autechre "innovators", and I guess I listened to the tracks with that in mind. I guess I skipped the rest of the CD when I didn´t hear anything new, but I clearly remember it to be "not bad at all".
Theory wise, it is quite possible ( and very common ) to make a piece of music that sounds normal, but isn´t. The newness is not always evident. Music is wonderful because you can encode it with so many layers and relational objects. Stuff doesn´t have to be "new" for me to liking it or appreciating it though.

Kassen · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject:

That´s fair, 80, I think a lot of you enjoyment of AE will depends on how you listen to it. There are many days when I share your "active but boring" stance to the letter but on others I get intense enjoyment from trying to follow their paterns. "New" is kinda subjective but I think they are "influential" beyond any doubt which must be worth something too....

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:34 pm Post subject:

I have seen the name "Autechre" all over the place, so I am pretty sure they have been/ are important in some way or another. Some of my friends who have followed the band for years have been violently disappointed about some of the releases. That might as well be a good sign. I really think one should allow artists to have some sort of integrity. If you manage to do something that pleases other people, you are then suddenly not allowed to your own thing anymore?
I am pretty sure I will have another go at Autechre some day.

blue hell · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject:

On some occasions people told me that I should listen to Autechre, to this track or that. But when I did I thought 'm to more or less be "just another" pop group and was not impressed very much although the music was not distastefull at all.

But also from what I heard on occasions I think they are changeing pop music in the sense that they do more experimental stuff than a lot of other pop groups do.

Reading the interview was interesting BTW as it invites very much to experiment - well to me it did. Maybe I should listen some newer work, see where they are now.

( and I'm sure that were I younger I'd have a somewhat different view on this :-)

Jan.

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject:

Roland Kuit · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject:

I've listened a lot of their records. they are all different! So, i like that. Not a comercial going. I reacted a bit hars. That's the flue, and new things are mostly NOT new thigs. So, sorry about that. What i like like is the experiment. And somethimes hear the echo's of the past:). That was my meaning.

Roland Kuit · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject:

And may i direct you to the wish list. Random stuff. I know, it's off topic, but more interesting(i think). Play with th my randomizer, and you don't need au

Unfed · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject:

inversekinematics · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject:

inversekinematics · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: