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Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:36 am Post subject:
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fischek wrote: | that sounds a bit like a recursion but I don't mind as long as pogo is setup for the gig | Yep, there are more ways to put the fire out.... (never mind)
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fischek
Joined: May 07, 2007 Posts: 81 Location: Belgrade
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:20 am Post subject:
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all I wanted to say is I get the recursive nature of your joke hope you got me right
anyway, do you think there's a chance to do some sort of basic tutorials on how to accomplish things by using the nord lead? just some basic stuff - where to start when creating a bass, lead, strings, whatever... |
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Wout Blommers
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:39 am Post subject:
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I did some investigations on the machine which findings are worthwhile to write about. I would say, let's start I think we should start a new thread about it.
We could leave out the NordLead1 and you can do the results on the 2X to verify...
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fischek
Joined: May 07, 2007 Posts: 81 Location: Belgrade
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:44 am Post subject:
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touche away! |
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POGphile
Joined: Oct 04, 2008 Posts: 17 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:48 am Post subject:
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FAILURE
Set the cables to NORD, set the perf bank a9, used the midi OX and used the send sysex command after loading your file. Displays shows file sent but the nord perfromance is unchanged.
I'm using m-audio interface for midi - which works cuz I used the nord to trigger software before and I also was able to dump file from nord via midi-ox.
Damn it. Why couldn't CLAVIA just use a stupid USB port? Does it cheapen the product somehow.
I don't think my sequencer MPC500 can send midi files, I went thru the whole manual no mention of that.
I guess I will have go to the store and ask if I can dump right from the nord itself. |
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Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:57 am Post subject:
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POGphile wrote: | FAILURE
Set the cables to NORD, set the perf bank a9, used the midi OX and used the send sysex command after loading your file. Displays shows file sent but the nord perfromance is unchanged.
I'm using m-audio interface for midi - which works cuz I used the nord to trigger software before and I also was able to dump file from nord via midi-ox. | You're sure there is a cable from m-audio Midi Out to synth Midi IN? Did you send Patches to the synth before and did it work out?
Which file did you send using Midi-OX? The 1-A9.mid file? This should work. The SysEx files you have to send to a Program location each, not to performance! When both are saved in Program mode, go to Performance location 1-A9, press and hold button SlotA and scroll to the first saved Program and release the button. The same for SlotB, but scroll to the other one. Then save 1-A9...
Quote: | Damn it. Why couldn't CLAVIA just use a stupid USB port? Does it cheapen the product somehow. | See my remark in the new thread (tips and tricks in the NordLead2X) about 1995...
Quote: | I guess I will have go to the store and ask if I can dump right from the nord itself. | It is a possibility...
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POGphile
Joined: Oct 04, 2008 Posts: 17 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:34 am Post subject:
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yea I checked the cables, I have only one running out the computer interface to in on the nord.
this is the send message....
TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
Opened MIDI Input
Opened MIDI Output
00013F77 MOX 2 F0 Buffer: 256 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: 4D 54 68 64 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 01 01 80 4D 54 72 6B
SYSX: 00 00 02 EE 00 FF 03 07 54 72 61 63 6B 20 31 00 FF 58
SYSX: 04 04 02 18 08 00 FF 51 03 07 A1 20 84 08 F0 85 4A 33
SYSX: 0F 04 1E 00 0C 03 00 05 01 04 07 02 02 05 0B 03 0A 01
SYSX: 00 00 04 04 0E 05 08 01 00 03 00 00 06 03 0E 07 0C 01
SYSX: 00 03 0F 07 00 00 0E 01 06 04 0F 00 04 04 09 02 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 0E 01 00 00 07 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 04 0F 0C 00 00 00 01 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 01 00 01 00 03 00 02 00 01 00 01 00 04 00 00 00
SYSX: 03 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 0C 03 0A 04 07 04 01 00
SYSX: 0A 03 0C 03 00 00 00 00 08 03 0E 05 06 01 00 03 00 00
SYSX: 06 03 0E 07 0C 01 00 03 04 05 00 00 0E 01 06 04 0B 00
SYSX: 0F 07 09 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0E 01 00 00 0D 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00
00013FB4 MOX 2 F0 Buffer: 256 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: 00 00 04 0F 0C 00 00 00 01 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 05 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0B 01 00 00 00 00 01 00
SYSX: 01 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 03 00 02 00 01 00 01 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 03 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 03 00 05 0A 04
SYSX: 00 00 04 04 08 04 00 03 00 00 00 00 0E 05 0E 01 06 05
SYSX: 00 00 04 06 0E 07 0A 05 00 01 0C 03 00 00 0A 07 0E 03
SYSX: 0B 04 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 0D 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 03 00 02 00
SYSX: 03 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00
SYSX: 0C 03 00 05 0A 04 00 00 04 04 08 04 00 03 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 0E 05 0E 01 06 05 00 00 04 06 0E 07 0A 05 00 01 0A 03
SYSX: 00 00 0A 07 0E 03 0B 04 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00
00013FF0 MOX 2 F0 Buffer: 255 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 0D
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 03 00
SYSX: 02 00 03 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 03 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
SYSX: 08 00 08 00 08 00 07 01 07 01 07 01 07 01 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 08 00 08 00 08 00 08 00 07 01 07 01 07 01
SYSX: 07 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 08 00 08 00 08 00
SYSX: 07 01 07 01 07 01 07 01 06 00 04 00 00 00 0F 00 00 00
SYSX: 01 00 03 01 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 05 00 05 00 01 00 01 00 01 00
SYSX: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 0C 03 F7
00014068 MOX 2 F0 Buffer: 5 Bytes System Exclusive
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Wout Blommers
Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:11 am Post subject:
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At first glance it looks like a normal Performance file...
Only the synth refuses to recognize it...
I'll have to admit I never had any success using Midi-OX other then looking at the Midi in text and the fact the program claimed all the MidiPorts, so I have to set all other Midi tools back to their Midi...
But there are a lot of people using it with much pleasure, but such things are normal in computerland
Last option, but a nasty one. If press [Shift+LFO1-Wave (that is the left button)] and you turn any knob, does the LCD screen reads its value?
If so, I'll send you all parameters, you open 1-A9 and change all to the right values... Then save it...
At least you'll learn something on the way
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Wout Blommers
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:58 am Post subject:
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Assuming [Shift+LFO1] works, here are the parameters.
Read it.
Go to Performance 1-A9 and be sure only Slot A and B are lit (If more, press all until just one lits and press Slot A and B)
First press Slot A till it blinks.
Then press [Shift+LFO1] and turn LFO Rate and set it to the desired value.
Go through all knobs (only 25!)
Then activate Slot B and do the same here. You can leave alone [Shift+LFO1], it won't affect anything.
When done leave [Shift+LFO1] and check the sound!!!
Save it!
Please tell us about any results...
Wout
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POGphile
Joined: Oct 04, 2008 Posts: 17 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:13 am Post subject:
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So you basically would want me to recreate that performance patch from the programs...
I gotta tell you I played rock for on my guitars for 15 years, in the past 6 months I was learned to use my MPC, some basic keyboard stuff - like appreggios and stuff, and I'm programming my POD X3 - but that's as much as my guitarist brain can handle
thanks so much for help you guys, I actually took the easy way out - per your advice I took the nord to local music shop and dump the performance right in to my keys.... IT WAS SO EASY !!!!!!!!!
I wish I had the money for a 2nd keyboard to do this... Maybe I should save up the wave (that one has the USB !)
Thanks again ! |
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POGphile
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:16 am Post subject:
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Before I go, two more questions
1. I also have Alesis Micron, do you know if I can store midi files in there?
2. I have Analog Factory which has some sweet patches, is there any way to use those in Nord leads 2x??? |
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Wout Blommers
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:41 am Post subject:
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POGphile wrote: | So you basically would want me to recreate that performance patch from the programs... | It is a way...
Quote: | I gotta tell you I played rock for on my guitars for 15 years, in the past 6 months I was learned to use my MPC, some basic keyboard stuff - like appreggios and stuff, and I'm programming my POD X3 - but that's as much as my guitarist brain can handle | I can't help you there Quote: | thanks so much for help you guys, I actually took the easy way out - per your advice I took the nord to local music shop and dump the performance right in to my keys.... IT WAS SO EASY !!!!!!!!! | Not when the rain is falling out of the sky and you have to go by bike... Quote: | I wish I had the money for a 2nd keyboard to do this... Maybe I should save up the wave (that one has the USB !)' | Don't grow over-optimistic! You're a guitar player, remember that (Well, being a drummer would be worst!!! GO??? Who is paying our drinks then? Quote: | ... two more questions:
1. I also have Alesis Micron, do you know if I can store midi files in there?
2. I have Analog Factory which has some sweet patches, is there any way to use those in Nord leads 2x??? | At the moment I would say no, but I haven't investigate this...
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