autechre untilted WARP180CD

blue hell · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:33 pm Post subject:

What interview do you mean Kas ?

You had a liink in an earlier mail, and a reference to to that one in an inbetween mail describing it as the "new interview". That's the one I read and that one seems to fit the description you now give (apart from going into MAX a bit much it also mentioned simple things to be used ( being of equal importance, they said))

This puzzles me a bit ... should I read the old interview for a more in depth view into simple instruments used by AE ?

Anyway, you were right and not wrong; I thought the description of what equipment was used, and in what way it was, to be interesting. After all I also like to make sounds with rubber bands, rulers, newspapers & stuff (all are things that can efficiently simulate some particular complex equations very well (and, oh miracle, in real time !) for some reason :-)

I might, as one of the five, have gotten your black hole joke ... (it did made me smile after all, didn't it). But ... we could discuss that over a beer or something at some inevitable not too distant future occasion/happenin & decide afterwards who'll have to pay for it.

Jan.

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject:

the soundonsound.com interview?

blue hell · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject:

rnp · Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 55 Location: germany

this is the older SOS piece on them (from 97): http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/nov97/autechre.html

Kassen · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:27 am Post subject:

Jan, Rnp here has found it. The SOS site has only two articles for a autechre search so I thought I could be lazy, Aprently being both lazy and unnclear was pushing my luck.

I guessed that you´d like the older one with the stuff about getting everything from simple gear because your posts on patching often stress being efficient with resources. Being efficient with resources is much less of a problem in modern computers where you can afford to use brute force techniques much more easily.

Either way, these would make some good topics for a few beers, I´m always up for some good discussion on syntyhesis and related topics, I suppose Rob warned you? Those tend to take a while, you see.....

:¬)

Afro88 · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:43 am Post subject:

I've only heard a bit of Autechre (I think one of the tracks was called "Bike"), and I found them very different, but they just didn't have the magic of some other abstract/IDM stuff I've heard. The music is obviously very polished, technically extremely difficult and finetuned and sounds like they've been worked on to within an inch of their life (in a good way), but the music itself just didn't do it for me. I should really listen to some more of their stuff though.

Anyway, I remember seeing a picture of Sean Booth's Nord Micro painted solid black with a thick black nico pen. I think it was on the modular patch archives page that has the modular FAQ. I wonder if they use a G2 now?

mother misty · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:34 am Post subject:

Yep!
At first I found it a bit dissapointing, to me it sounded more like a step backward than forward, "too normal" for my ears Wink

I expected something more complex, (certainly after draft 7:30 & Gantz Graf) it sounded a bit like "jam sessions" to me...

But after a few days I have to change my opinion Smile

This one is different, but really nice! (it certainly grows on you)
I really like the structures of these songs, the way how they evolve, songs like "the threes", which starts pretty repetitive but after a while glitches, collides & breaks up to exciting new rhythms or 'iera", which sounds so incredible organic like it has a life on it's own!

Sometimes listening to ae is like listening to noodles, (this is not "your normal everyday stuff' Smile

You have to listen some time to fully understand it!
(and that's very important when listening to ae! it's like listening to an MP3 noodle for 10 seconds...)
If you listen to ae a couple of seconds i can understand that you won't like it, it will probably sound like a bunch of random noise to you
(i know i felt that way when I bought my first ae album! Smile

but this is more than random noise, this noise is actually going somewhere, evolves, morphs & takes you on a trip like only ae can but you have to discover that youself Smile

It's like they have so much control over their sound and can do anything with it they want...

(can't wait to see them live in 2 months, and I have a feeling I will see a G2 on stage Smile

RESPECT!

cebec · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:01 am Post subject:

I agree. This one, like their last few, needs to grow on you... like a fungus or a nest of vines. It's a lot more rapid and microscopic in some ways than before.
Mother Misty, I couldn't agree with you more. I can't wait to see them, too!

blue hell · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:35 am Post subject:

cebec · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject:

Oh, I just remembered:
I've heard/read from others that listening to any of Autechre's post-Tri Repetae albums is conducive to coding! So anyone who does a lot of coding might want to see if it helps! Idea

inversekinematics · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:21 am Post subject:

Stanley Pain · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:15 am Post subject:

i saw autechre live in manchester. it was a humbling experience.

they laid their studio out on the dancefloor and you could walk around them and get a real sense of how they were working.

sure, they didn't invent modular synthesis, but i reckon their output is far more musical than Stockhausen's. and i'm speaking as someone who has worked closely with members of the Stockhausen ensemble.

there's an article somewhere online where they play stocks music to Aphex Twin and vice versa.

Stockhausen dismisses Aphex Twin's music as being "post african" and Aphex Twin dismisses Stockhausen by saying "what's the point? no one will dance to this".

i think they both have a point.

Kassen · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:29 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:36 am Post subject:

post african? OK? What does he mean by that? The music is OK for dancing? Is Mozart post african too?
Shocked

Rob · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:30 am Post subject:

paul e. · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:28 am Post subject:

i wonder if stockhausen ever recorded a piece and couldn't think of a name for it so called it 'untitled'....comparing autechre and stockhausen somehow seems wrong...for the last few albums of theirs, i had trouble spotting the actual music in between the oh-so-clever digi-bits

emperors new clothes anyone ?

mother misty · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:54 am Post subject:

paul e. · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:27 am Post subject:

very clever title from very clever guys..they got me on that one

zynthetix · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject:

autechre makes some very neat music, worth some listens at the very least, but two things disagree with me:

1) I have heard them mention in an interview that they practically rewire their studio for every song, affirming their "studio as an instrument" idea.

I am much in the camp of doing as much as possible with as little as possible. To me, what autechre does can be compared to playing every song on a guitar in a different tuning. You might learn a thing or two with every song, but I think the instrument is better utilized and understood when intensely and consistently used with one tuning. This way you can devote your attention to other aspects of the instrument instead of "Where is A# now?". Maybe this comparrison is not quite clear with electronic instruments.

2) A lot of it is in 4, with repetitive bass/snare sounds at the center.

Well, almost everything western is in divisions of 2 and 4. This is not to say that I don't like these divisions. But when the AE guys are spending all this time rewiring their studio, adding tons of technical detail to the sounds, a stagnant, looping drum and snare kind of kills it for me.

Unfed · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject:

Autechre European Tour :: April 05
Thu 14 London. SE1 + Rob Hall, Mark Broom, Baby Ford
8-3am, £13adv Seetickets, Stargreen
Rough Trade CovGdn 0207-240-0105 FLYER
Fri 15 Glasgow. Arts School ¬ FLYER
Sat 16 Manchester. Zoo ¬ tickets:
skam shop
Boomkat / Pelicanneck
Ticketline /0161 832 1111.
Sun 17 Nottingham. Stealth ¬
Mon 18 Paris. Point Ephemere
Tue 19 Antwerp. Petrol *
Wed 20 Eindhoven. Effenaar *
Thu 21 Hamburg. Blumen Und Planeten *
Fri 22 Berlin. Maria * (+ O.S.T. & Errorsmith)
Sat 23 Koln. Sensor *
Sun 24 TBC *
Mon 25 Reims. La Cartonnerie *
Tue 26 Lyon. DV1*
Wed 27 Geneva. L'Usine *
Thu 28 Marseille. La Friche Belle De Mai *
Fri 29 Rome. Brancaleone *
Sat 30 Bologna. Link *

NB: All dates with DJ Rob Hall
¬ = with DJ Mark Broom
* = with SND(live)

May USA
Fri 06 Washington DC Black Cat
Sat 07 Philadelphia PA Trocadero
Sun 08 NYC Webster Hall
Mon 09 Boston Paradise
Tue 10 Montreal Usine C
Wed 11 Toronto Opera House
Fri 13 Chicago Metro
Sat 14 Minneapolis Ascot Room
Tue 17 Vancouver Commodore Ballroom
Wed 18 Seattle Neumos
Thu 19 Portland Berbatis Pan
Fri 20 San Francisco Mezzanine
Sat 21 Los Angeles El Rey
Sun 22 Tempe AZ Freedom
Tue 24 Dallas TX Trees
Wed 25 Austin TX The Parish
Thu 26 New Orleans Twiropa
Fri 27 Atlanta Variety Playhouse
Sat 28 Asheville NC Orange Peel
(all dates with DJ Rob Hall + SND Live)

Confirmed Festivals:
July
01 Roskilde. Denmark
08 MS Stubnitz Festival. Newcastle
14 5 Days Off. Amsterdam

Stanley Pain · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject:

W.T. · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:

can someone put the patch online?

thanx

grtz

jeroen

ian-s · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject:

Can someone recommend which Autechre album I should get? They sound like they should be interesting but I just auditioned 3 tracks (not much time) from the 1997 release and thought it was crap (not Da crap). If someone could advise it would save me a lot of time, their CD’s are hard to come by down here and we don’t have ITunes.

PS: I’m not so keen on the close mic’ed crisp packet rustling stuff.

seraph · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject:

Afro88 · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: